Don't need to watch it. Let's think rationally for a second....

You think maybe...just maybe...people say this ♥♥♥♥ for attention? They clinically die, come back, and go "hmm...how can I capitalize on this?" Then they make up a story and get their 15-minutes of fame.

Also, youtube is not a legit reference for anything but bs. Send me a peer-reviewed article, ffs

i believe in an afterlife but i dont believe NDEs or what is experienced in 'clinical death' are the threshold to the afterlife and are likely just perceptions or illusions caused by misfires from the brain, not too dissimilar from a dream but warped by lack of oxygen.

i'd listen to somebody who came back from full brain death though, but i don't think it's possible.

it's a positive message anyway and I don't doubt he experienced what he saw, but i don't think it was the afterlife.

Originally posted by festive trash can:

i believe in an afterlife but i dont believe NDEs or what is experienced in 'clinical death' are the threshold to the afterlife and are likely just perceptions or illusions caused by misfires from the brain, not too dissimilar from a dream but warped by lack of oxygen.

i'd listen to somebody who came back from full brain death though, but i don't think it's possible.

it's a positive message anyway and I don't doubt he experienced what he saw, but i don't think it was the afterlife.

This is true. Plus science tried to explain away NDEs as hallucinations based on what you yourself think about death. Which is the best explanation.

Originally posted by Fuki『ふき』:

Originally posted by festive trash can:

i believe in an afterlife but i dont believe NDEs or what is experienced in 'clinical death' are the threshold to the afterlife and are likely just perceptions or illusions caused by misfires from the brain, not too dissimilar from a dream but warped by lack of oxygen.

i'd listen to somebody who came back from full brain death though, but i don't think it's possible.

it's a positive message anyway and I don't doubt he experienced what he saw, but i don't think it was the afterlife.

This is true. Plus science tried to explain away NDEs as hallucinations based on what you yourself think about death. Which is the best explanation.

You fart on science...but here you are using yt as a reference, sucking the metaphorical D of some dude's statement.

NDE’s or ADE, absolute death, clinical and brought back from it.

Otherwise a fool proof subject to flat out lie about since who can tell.
And with that said i certainly not call them all liars, just some of them and yeah seen a few of those YouTube clips already.

Originally posted by TheSteaksHaveNeverBeenHigher:

Originally posted by Fuki『ふき』:

This is true. Plus science tried to explain away NDEs as hallucinations based on what you yourself think about death. Which is the best explanation.

You fart on science...but here you are using yt as a reference, sucking the metaphorical D of some dude's statement.

I said that science was correct here.

Originally posted by Fuki『ふき』:

Originally posted by TheSteaksHaveNeverBeenHigher:

You fart on science...but here you are using yt as a reference, sucking the metaphorical D of some dude's statement.

I said that science was correct here.

Huh. Well, maybe I should first look up what NDE means. lelzzzzzzzzzz

Carry on

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

Near death experience, it can all be interesting in the moment but if you never experienced it yourself it sort of fails to transmit any scientifical proofs about it, becomes a matter of faith in the one with the story.

If God is there or not i gave up on, if he is what about it and i just feel a bit insulted with it frankly, personally.

I don’t feel i need an eye in the sky that keeps track of what i do because why would he? For good or bad this all becomes just vague and hypothetical = religion.

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

You could just not have typed that without taking a leak on the rest in the thread?
Right i’ll leave it with that remark, net as usual, good night sigh.

Originally posted by Midgard:

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

You could just not have typed that without taking a leak on the rest in the thread?
Right i’ll leave it with that remark, net as usual, good night sigh.

How did I do that ? By saying facts and logic? I’m a very spiritual person and kinda get tired of the no proof not real crowd.

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

But they do differ. They differ way too much for me to conclude they have a spiritual purpose. Plus, these are near-death experiences, not experiencing death. There's a difference between during death vs the early stages of death.

Originally posted by Fuki『ふき』:

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

But they do differ. They differ way too much for me to conclude they have a spiritual purpose. Plus, these are near-death experiences, not experiencing death. There's a difference between during death vs the early stages of death.

True many are fake like the ones on you tube I won’t deny that, but actual ones when u talk to the person one on one ? They are mostly the same kinda story and never mention a god,

There’s also patients who are. On hospice who are lucid and talk about dead relatives they see, not Nde but also weird, just ask any hospice nurse

Also the patients on hospice, even the ones with dementia, before they die they get a wave of energy and are like normal a day before they die, also weird.

Am I saying it’s a soul or spiritual? Nah but I’m not saying it’s not

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

if he remembers it, where was that memory stored? where all other memories are stored, the brain. his brain was still alive during the NDE.

as for the % rate, i don't see how that's any different to whether you remember a dream or not.

Originally posted by festive trash can:

Originally posted by Kayla ♥:

Great more semi intellectuals trying to look smart.

Firstly brain miss firing isn’t a good answer, when it’s a damaged brain,
Secondly if that was the case every one would report it,
As it stands very few report it,.

Now let’s say 50% remember it but only like 25% report it for example, if it was the brain tha number would be higher,
Another way to explain it away was dmt released on the brain.
But that’s based on a rat trial, and even the guy who did it said the human brain wouldn’t produce enough.


So where does that leave us ? A great big mystery of some mechanism we don’t know about or something spiritual

if he remembers it, where was that memory stored? where all other memories are stored, the brain. his brain was still alive during the NDE.

as for the % rate, i don't see how that's any different to whether you remember a dream or not.

You have a good point but that is a functional brain, we are talking about a brain in panic mode, why would it show such things? During crisis. Makes logical sense.

It should want to preserve its self, not do whatever an nde is

My position isn’t for either side btw I just find it an interesting mystery