I don't see why the CPUs should be next when there are barely any improvement in the last 4 years and they are 3-4 times cheaper than GPUs in terms of production.

Instead of Intel Arc GPU and this entry level cpu from 2019, can't they be replaced with something like Ryzen 5 5600G/4600G or similar? Otherwise the configuration costs dirty cheap if some parts are bought second hand.

Originally posted by A&A:

I don't see why the CPUs should be next when there are barely any improvement in the last 4 years.

Instead of Intel Arc GPU and this entry level cpu from 2019, can't they be replaced with something like Ryzen 5 5600G/4600G or similar? Otherwise the configuration costs dirty cheap second hand.

CPU prices will increase just cos we dont have any options. It's intel or AMD so suck it and pay up.

But for real amd will increase the prices to make up for selling less vram.

Originally posted by Alxndr:

Originally posted by A&A:

I don't see why the CPUs should be next when there are barely any improvement in the last 4 years.

Instead of Intel Arc GPU and this entry level cpu from 2019, can't they be replaced with something like Ryzen 5 5600G/4600G or similar? Otherwise the configuration costs dirty cheap second hand.

CPU prices will increase just cos we dont have any options. It's intel or AMD so suck it and pay up.

But for real amd will increase the prices to make up for selling less vram.

just wow.....AMD does not make RAM in any form.....just wow......

Originally posted by Alxndr:

Originally posted by A&A:

I don't see why the CPUs should be next when there are barely any improvement in the last 4 years.

Instead of Intel Arc GPU and this entry level cpu from 2019, can't they be replaced with something like Ryzen 5 5600G/4600G or similar? Otherwise the configuration costs dirty cheap second hand.

CPU prices will increase just cos we dont have any options. It's intel or AMD so suck it and pay up.

But for real amd will increase the prices to make up for selling less vram.

Only 3 companies make vram, none of them are intel or amd

They are SK Hynex
Samsung
and micron

EDIT now however, both intels and amd (also Nvidea) GPUs will likely increase, as their sourcing (vram) prices are going up. Nvidea has already tossed all it's board partners to the wolves and will no longer provide em with any along with the dies, I suspect amd won't be far behind. Thats probably gonna kill all the smaller ones.

With stuff like upscaking and lossless scaling app you might be able to play stuff with lower end hardware except the system ram and vram issue.

There's cloud gaming also.

Originally posted by Set-115689:

With stuff like upscaking and lossless scaling app you might be able to play stuff with lower end hardware except the system ram and vram issue.

There's cloud gaming also.

oh god, don't fall into the trap and give $ to DC's with cloud :D I figure thats 20% of the reason they are sucking up the hardware. Thats their fall back position when AI implodes

You are not serious , are you !?

Originally posted by smallcat:

You are not serious , are you !?

I mean not really but don't pay the bastages anything, but if you use cloud it's a DC. It's why no matter what does or doesn't happen with AI they will do just fine.

@DasKippa , i addressed the OP

Originally posted by smallcat:

@DasKippa , i addressed the OP

lol my bad

as far as that goes, depending on what developers optimize for it's isn't a horrible Idea. If there is a fundamental shift in PC affordability, they(developers) arn't going to design games for a tiny market. Which means it is conceivable min specs actually start dropping

Game devs arn't charities (usually) to survive they need to sell. If older hardware siting in peeps garages starts re entering the market, and the new buzzword bingo wazoo component largely only exists in a DC. Hardware will likely become less and less a meter of progress in gaming. They would have to start focusing on un-important things like quest design or writing or something outre like that to move product.. .. perish the thought

3200G+ A310 is horrible indeed
it can be optimized and get more VRAM and a faster CPU with the same budget

Have you already bought this ? It cant be true . Whose advice did you follow ? it was an old blog , right

You can emulate SNES and NES games on just about anything.

Originally posted by DasKippa:

EDIT now however, both intels and amd (also Nvidea) GPUs will likely increase, as their sourcing (vram) prices are going up.

Exactly what I meant. I wasn't implying vram was made by amd like the user above you suggested. I meant that GPUs have vram and micron was a big vram producer, so it will sky rocket in price, causing GPU prices to sky rocket, which means less sales for amd and therefore less profit.

They'll need to claw back this profit from some other product so it will likely be from CPUs.

i love Resident Evil Revelations 2 , RAID mode inc. Might give it a try

Originally posted by Alxndr:

Originally posted by DasKippa:

EDIT now however, both intels and amd (also Nvidea) GPUs will likely increase, as their sourcing (vram) prices are going up.

Exactly what I meant. I wasn't implying vram was made by amd like the user above you suggested. I meant that GPUs have vram and micron was a big vram producer, so it will sky rocket in price, causing GPU prices to sky rocket, which means less sales for amd and therefore less profit.

They'll need to claw back this profit from some other product so it will likely be from CPUs.

All it means is AI has a dedicated bulk seller instead of buying packs of 2 or 4 from consumer sources, they can just by packs of 20k or 40k. This is better for the consumer because it means there is less competition for consumer products as AI will favour buying bulk from Micron. Not to mention whatever AI plans to do with all this DDR5 when DDR6 hits, I wouldn't be surprised if they push DDR6 now for AI to ease DDR5 for the consumer.